Caitlin Moran
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Of course men can still be funny. Chris Rock has just finished a sell-out world tour which was consistently amusing. Flight of the Conchords are so funny, they make appliqué jumpers look hot. Chris Morris is working on a sitcom about incompetent al-Qaeda terrorists, and Armando Iannucci and his team have a film version of The Thick of It coming out next year, set in America and starring Tony Soprano. I've no doubt that both will be as funny as funny can be. ÜberLOL.
But while men may still be capable of being funny - and, indeed, continue to be quite good at it - the ground rules of comedy are in flux. And one of the biggest ground rules has just been abolished entirely. For this year it became possible, for the first time in history, to make the following statement: currently, the two funniest people in the world are women.
Both are, inevitably, American. America always seems able to afford these feats of cultural wonderment - rock'n'roll, social networking sites, funny ladies - before we can. Tina Fey and Sarah Silverman are where comedy is at right now.
Tina Fey has been head and shoulders above all other satirists during the US presidential campaign - helped by her startling resemblance to Sarah Palin. Over the past few weeks on Saturday Night Live, Fey has been turning in an escalating series of Palin parodies - perhaps peaking with last Saturday's evisceration of the disastrous Palin/Katie Couric television interview. Skewering Palin's nebulous claim to superlative international diplomacy - based wholly on Alaska's promixity to Russia - Fey/Palin chirruped: “We keep an eye on them [the Russians]. Every morning when Alaskans wake up, they look outside and see if there are any Russians hanging around, and ask them what they are doing there. And if they can't give a good enough reason, it's our responsibility to say ‘Shoo!' and get them out of there.”
Perhaps more devastatingly, nearly a whole minute of the spoof interview consisted of verbatim, increasingly desperate and flailing quotes from Palin on the current $700 billion banking bailout - concluding with Fey grinding to a halt, then brightly saying: “Katie, I'd like to use a lifeline now, please. I'd like to phone a friend.” USA Today has said that Palin's biggest challenge now, in the run-up to the election, is to make Americans forget the “Tina Fey factor”. As the latest twist in a career in which Fey has become the first female chief writer on Saturday Night Live; written, produced and starred in the multi-Emmy-award-winning sitcom 30 Rock and written the $129million-grossing movie Mean Girls, which gave Lindsay Lohan her break-out role, it is unexpected but, in almost every respect, amusing.
Sarah Silverman, meanwhile, is the nearest the comedy world gets to a rock star. Currently on a world tour to promote her DVD Jesus is Magic, and appearing in London on October 19, Silverman is perhaps best known for her satirical song - the deathless, crude and very, very funny I'm F***ing Matt Damon - which made headlines around the world this summer when it hit 17million views on YouTube. For those who haven't seen it, it really is more than just some swearing and a cameo from Matt Damon - there's a joyous, almost reckless silliness to it that only escalated when Silverman's on/off boyfriend, the US chat show host Jimmy Kimmel, produced an “answer” song entitled I'm F***ing Ben Affleck, the video to which included Cameron Diaz, Ben Affleck, Harrison Ford and an all-star We Are The World-style choir. The combined viewing figure for both videos currently stands at more than 25million.
Silverman's appearances at awards ceremonies are invariably the stuff of next day's headlines: after Britney Spears' infamously “fat and confused” performance at last year's MTV awards, Silverman was the next person on stage.
“Wow. She is amazing. She's 25 years old and she has already accomplished everything she's going to accomplish in her life,” Silverman said in her trademark wide-eyed, Rita Rudner-esque manner, before adding: “Have you seen Britney's kids? They are the most adorable little mistakes you'll ever see! They are as cute as the hairless vagina they came out of!” The gasp from the celebrity audience is audible on the YouTube clip.
Silverman's main vehicle, however, is the inventive, anarchic and very funny The Sarah Silverman Program, which she writes, directs and stars in. It is the highest-rating show on Comedy Central.
Neither Fey nor Silverman is being punished for her pioneering success. It is not seen as somehow unfemale for them to be pursuing laughter. It's not like back in the 20th century, when women could be either funny but essentially unf***able - Joan Rivers, Roseanne Barr, Bette Midler, Lily Tomlin, Jo Brand - or f***able but condemned to a lifetime of speaking other people's lines - Lucille Ball, Phyllis Diller, Carole Lombard.
Of course, some would disagree. Last year the usually admirable Christopher Hitchens wrote a rather rheumy-eyed, crumb-spluttering polemic in Vanity Fair entitled “Why Women Aren't Funny”. One of his main, barking assertions in 3,000 words of barking assertion was that women could not be both amusing and attractive. “Most [female comedians] are hefty, or dykey, or Jewish,” he said.
Sadly for Hitchens, his assertion was rather undermined by the fact that Silverman (who is Jewish) managed to make the cover of Maxim, while Fey made the cover of Marie Claire. Maybe it's the global recession, maybe it's the weather, maybe it's all the therapy, but modern men appear quite happy to be laughed into bed.
Hitchens went on owlishly to explain that one of the primary reasons why women can't be funny lies with their wombs, which apparently can roam around the body, getting in the way of jokes. “Those who risk agony and death to bring children into [this world] simply cannot afford to be frivolous,” he harrumphed. “There just aren't that many episiotomy jokes.” Thus proving, if nothing else, that Hitchens has never got blotto on £3.99 cava with a group of NCT mothers on a night off.
Still, Hitchens is scarcely a lone, mad voice in the wilderness. This idea that there are innate female traits - fertility, fragility, some manner of moral superiority - that stop women from being laugh-out-loud funny is still a common one, especially among the older generation.
To do comedy “you need a big hunk of meat between the legs”, commented the late Michael O'Donoghue, the first chief writer on Saturday Night Live. “I do have [a hunk of meat between the legs],” Fey countered in her trademark style, which has been described as “poison-filled jokes in long, perfectly parsed sentences”. “It's just that it's been flayed to a vagina.”
Who needs balls when you have a million eggs and an extra rib, eh? Indeed, in many ways, having established that you don't need balls, who would want them at the moment? For while the greatest thing about being a man is the patriarchy - all those comfortable assumptions! All the guys! All the beers! - the worst thing about being a man is the patriarchy, too.
Let's face it, after aeons of physical, social, political and cultural dominance, men are quite often finding that, y'know ... it's a bit hard to start a conversation any more. They have kind of said pretty much what they want to say.
This is certainly the case in the world of rock and pop, where in the past two years all the hot British artists getting the headlines and breaking America have been women - Amy Winehouse, Lily Allen, Duffy, Leona Lewis, M.I.A and still, God bless them, Girls Aloud. It's hard to imagine a male artist capturing the public imagination in quite the same way.
Similarly, there hasn't been the advent of a young male messiah in the comedy world for some time now. I guess Russell Brand was the last one - but even he got his big break when a rumoured relationship with Kate Moss gave him cultural validity. And, as women assume ever more positions of power, it's logical that a generation of female comedians will need to satirise them. Often it takes a woman to see what tricks another woman is pulling (in Fey's parody of Sarah Palin's shambolic TV interview, she has Palin's inquisitor say, at one point, “Mrs Palin, it seems to me that whenever you're cornered, you just become increasingly adorable.” Palin/Fey responds by wrinkling her nose, making a series of silly “pew, pew, pew!” noises and saying “I dunno - is it?” in a cute little mouse voice). When men makes jokes about powerful women, they can sound so ... bitchy.
At this point in history it was inevitable that women would start to pull ahead of men in humour. For starters, women have a 200,000-year backlog of suppressed gags to get through. I can't wait to hear their material on the Neolithic revolution.
And secondly, women have many more untouched, unclaimed topics to play with, particularly in comedy's most fertile area: the realm of filth. Here, at least, we can find a point of agreement with Christopher Hitchens's Vanity Fair piece. In his thundering finale, Hitchens asserts that what a comedy audience ultimately wants is “filth and plenty of it. Filth in lavish, heaping quantities”. It was his firm conviction, however, that this was women's greatest disability - that women are too prissy, uptight and pleasant to “play dirty” with comedy, and so are condemned to be the unamusing sex.
So, while the most refreshing aspect of Fey's humour is her snappy, exasperated bluestocking pithiness - her backing for Hillary Clinton was “I'm a bitch. Hillary Clinton is a bitch. Bitches get things done” - it is Silverman, gleefully wading into the female viscera, who is a pioneer. She is gaspingly fearless in her topics. Whole episodes of her show have revolved around the vagina and its multifarious malfunctions: vaginal wind; heterosexual Aids, lesbianism, the cry “I stubbed my vagina!”.
When Hitchens asserts that Oscar Wilde was the only person “to ever make a decent joke about the death of an infant”, he had clearly never seen the scene in The Sarah Silverman Program in which Silverman uses the story of her abortion, at the age of 18, as an inspirational pep-talk. “Let me tell you a little story about courage,” she starts. The inspirational pep-talk is to a nervous ten-year-old about to enter a children's beauty pageant.
Silverman's killer weapon, however, is that while she never saw a taboo she didn't want to bust - she also has a winning line in satirical racism, and her material on homophobia reveals many supposedly “pro-gay” comics to be mortifyingly patronising - she delivers it all with an air of, well ... feminine charm. Girlish winsomeness. Joy. Imagine Audrey Hepburn doing stand-up, or Gigi writing and starring in a sitcom about malfunctioning vaginas.
Silverman is both Wife of Bath bawd and Amelie-esque ingénue. Along with Fey's ability to bring down an opponent that even Barack Obama couldn't manage, it is, perhaps, the kind of trick that only a woman could pull off.
Sarah Silverman performs at the London Hammersmith Apollo on Sunday, 19 October. Tickets: £42 and £35, available from 0844 576 5488, www.livenation.co.uk .
Sarah Silverman: Jesus Is Magic”is released on DVD by Warner Music Entertainment on Monday 13 October.
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What's the Oscar Wilde quote?
Louis, Melbourne, Australia
And I can see Russia from my house - Tina I get.
Sarah tries too hard - just tedious.
Comedy is a talent that is not confined to either men or women. Bill Bailey - Victoria Wood - both hilarious. Dawn French - Lenny Henry ho ho . Eddie Izzard and, depending on what he's got on - Eddie Izzard
Anne, London,
What complete and utter stupidity. The writer should be fired immediately for this tripe. It is insulting to suggest that these two people have any wit or sense of real humor at all. Disgusting.
Mark, Montana, USA
Sarah Silverman is awful. I'm not against offensive comedy per se, but she is offensive without being funny. I would say she is not in the top 100 comedians in the world right at this moment. There are genuinely funny women out there but sarah silverman is not one of them.
Sam Bobly, Brisbane, Australia
"I guess Russell Brand was the last one - but even he got his big break when a rumoured relationship with Kate Moss gave him cultural validity."
not sure about that
Ali, London,
Sarah Silverman is just Russell Brand after he's had a shave!
Bob, Glasgow, Scotland
Can I believe my own eyes, the name Sarah Silverman and the words 'queen', 'of', 'comedy' in the same sentence!?
Shouldn't that have a question mark at the end of it to make it a QUESTION!!
The British standard of comedy have fallen dramatically if she's considered even remotely funny.
Zoe, Liverpool, G.B
I happen to like the Sarah Silverman show it makes me chuckle...however I find the above quaote by Mary, London, England, far funnier!
Dave, Harlow, UK
I believe that to stay truely "timeless", regardless of the changing gender dynamics, a comedian shouldn't attempt to break ground in grossness, but to address those things that are consistent, and will be in the next 100 years. Try Bill Hicks? I love his comedy of hate!
Daniel, Moscow, Russia
The other day, I was telling an American business visitor to the UK about Sarah Silverman's awful appearance on the Jonathan Ross show - he said he'd never heard of her !
Howard, London, UK
You may say that Tina Fey and Sarah Silverman are the two most hilarious comics in the world. However you limit yourself to the Englishspeaking world which is only a fraction of the whole world. What is funny for Americans is of moderate humor for others.
Please give up these superlatives.
Max , Brussels,
I find the Fey/Palin sketch amusing but still don't understand why it has suddenly become the pinnacle of comedy. Dead Ringers has been doing a very similar sort of thing for years at a far higher level than "verbatim" speech and 'Who Wants To Be A Millionaire' references that grew old 5 years ago.
Tristan Cross, Cardiff, Wales
Thirty Rock and Tina Fey are funny, Sarah silverman however is a phenomanenly untalented product of hype. What's truly annoying about her is that she claims that those who arent fans dont "get" her. We get it. we're not shocked were bored. Get off the stage!!!!!!!
Laura, Bath,
No way is Sarah Silverman as funny as Amy Poehler! Just one of many examples to support this claim is Amy's Sarah Palin campaign rap on last weekend's Saturday Night Live.
George Kosinski, Gibsons, Canada
I find Silverman absolutely hilarious, but I imagine that there are a lot of people out there who aren't on her wavelength or don't quite get what she's doing.
James Kilfoy, Reading, UK
Both are really funny. Tina is so fab on 30 rock and Sarah is just a hoot!
Lexie, PONTYPRIDD,
Sarah Silverman is no where near as funny as she thinks she is. As someone on here rightly said, sucess does not mean quality and Sarah Silverman is low on quality and is painfully unfunny.
Jon Ingleson, Bath,
Not long ago Linda Smith was voted by Radio 4 listeners to be the funniest person alive. Sadly she is no longer with us, and she was never really known outside the UK in her lifetime - but I would like to think we Brits are quicker than our American cousins in appreciatinng women in comedy.
Andrew Undershaft, London, UK
Tina Fey is one of the current bunch of comedy genius's coming out of America, 30 rock is a superb show up there with sanders, seinfield and curb!!
Whereas silverman is a good comic but not brilliant.
Fey will be around for decades and have many hits, silverman will be gone in five years!!
Simon, Manchester, England
Is this really an article about comedians? No it is simple man bashing from a woman who clearly has a chip on her shoulder. Hardly balanced is it?
Both Fey and Silverman are funny but the funniest people alive? Your having a laugh. I think you are confusing success with quality.
I would expect more!
Bob Ross, Liverpool, UK
Sarah is funny. Ricky is funny. French and Saunders are funny. Chris Rock is funny. Funny holds no barriers, male/female (or any combination thereof) or black/white (or whatever color).
To think otherwise is to be a Republican or a Conservative.
Trevor, Dallas, USA
Sarah Silverman - sorry - just not funny at all
David, Edinburgh,
Duke H-
Ricky Gervais and Sascha are TERRIBLY UNFUNNY. Of course barring the difference between Brit and American humor -some of your top comics are just plain silly - Bean and Benny Hill.
That being said -Fey is amazing in her skits of Palin. Check out NBC and you will agree.
Malena, City of Angels, USA
It is so terribly Victorian that men still can't see that women can be funny and feminine. Women have been tied down for years by the chains forged by men, not by their anatomy.
Mary, London, England
Ricky Gervais? Chris Rock? Sacha Baron Cohen?Steve Coogan? Peter Kay? I agree both Fey and Silverman can be very funny, but there is a difference between being the most high profile and actually being the funniest.
Duke H, Birmingham, England
I love both Tina & Sarah, but I don't love Sarah to the tune of £35 or £42.. Of course I said the same think in 1976 about David Bowie, only the number then was £5. ...but compared to the 40p it cost to get into the Marquee at the time it seemed exorbitant, as does the ticket price to see SS.
Steve, Haverhill, UK
Goodness, now all men are humourless and all women can make everyone laugh.
Will this kind of thing never end.
Or will we be forever plagued by women writers who must make silly comparisons across the genders?
germaine botterell, London,
Tina Fey has singlehandedly blown Palin out of the water - the Russia sketch is the finest comedy moment of the year
david, milan, italy
Anthony, maybe read the article again; you must have missed the numerous references to Fey and Silverman's material...
Thom James, Auckland,
If they are as funny as you say they are, I can't understand why you didn't refer to any of their comic material in your article.
Anthony, Shanklin, UK
Sarah Silverman is brilliant. It's easy to dismiss the art, but the sight of her singing, "you're going to die soon" to a bunch of senior citizens is challenging on an almost cosmic scale. It humanises our prejudices and fears about age, reveals the hidden fears and frustration. Wonderful.
Eric, London,
To be a 'queen of comedy' you need to be funny to both sexes. Fey achieves it, Silverman doesn't.
Comparing the two is risible - Silverman's achievement appears to be a 'top rated' show on Comedy Central, whereas Fey is just starting her third series of a networked show with 30 Rock. No contest.
A Wright-Burke, London Bridge, UK
Caitlin, if Lilly Allen, Leona Lewis and Amy Winehouse are the most celebrated female artists, then your entire argument essentially falls apart. And neither Silvermann, nor Fey are as funny as Lucy Porter. But she never appeared on the cover of a magazine. She's just smart, and funny.
Morgan, Glasgow, Scotland
I very strongly disagree with the statement that comedy audiences only want filth. It very rapidly becomes tedious, whether the 'comedian' is male or female.
Daley, Oban,
Personally I find Sarah Silverman a bit too bratty -teenager-ish to be really funny, apart from the Matt Damon thing. But Tina Fey is hilarious, and so is Amy Poehler.
But in fairness to men, Dylan Moran is hysterical. Any relation?
Oonagh, Hong Kong,
there is no best in comedy, it is to a persons taste, they maybe the most influential and maybe popular at the moment but there are people who who still enjoy benny hill!!!!!!
David, Melbourne,
I love Sarah Silverman. Her TV series is hilarious. I love her sense of humour. I also love Tina Fey. 30 Rock is really funny. I am going to see Sarah at the London Hammersmith Apollo on Sunday October 19th. Can't wait for the Jesus is Magic DVD. I love the I'm F****** Matt Damon video.
Jeff Woodsleigh, London, England