Saadia-Botswana-Most Zimbabweans in the UK have been back to Zimbabwe several times and also communicate with family and friends in Zim on a daily basis.They have more intimate knowledge of what'sactually happening and do not rely on the info in media.Posters should take their cue from these Zims.

Davis, Manchester,

Living right on the border of Zimbabwe (in Botswana) I can GUARANTEE u that the situation is far worse than what the media is showing.RSA is totally impotent b/c Mugabe and Mbeki are pals.Rem, Mbeki is the same man who said HIV-AIDS doesnt exist.That's the mentality we're dealing with here.

Saadia R, Francistown, Botswana

Westerners, PLEASE shut up. Don't you have black people in your countries? Show the same "concern" for them ( stop throwing them in jail) and spare us your crocodile tears. We've seen this since the beginning...and frankly, we're tired of it. If you want our resources all you have is to ask nicely!

Kay, Harare, Zimbabwe

"Their sacrifice was 4 China"

Mao turned into a tyrant, all the pain of the 'cultual revolution' was initiated by him just to maintain power, was he any better than any of the other great dictators of the 20th century?

Mike, Nottm, UK

Mike, Nottm, UK

I won't speak on Russia but I think a West like you knows little about China and Chinese mentality. I can tell you that if the Chinese people have to undergo the hardship they had during Chairman Mao's time again I am sure they would be ready to do so. Their sacrifice was 4 China.

Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia

The African Union countries, and particularly South Africa, seem impotent against the excesses of the Mugabe regime. If they don't intervene soon, bigger powers should on humanitarian grounds. Mr. Mbeki, Mr. Mwanawasa, et al.: The ball is in your court. Will you finally act in Zimbabwe?

David , Colorado, USA

Lim

"Yes Kampuchea went through a bad patch"

That has to be the understatement of the decade, is that the sort of 'bad patch' Russia went through with Stalin or China with Mao or the world with Hitler?

Selling arms to murderious regimes is wrong no matter who sells them.

Mike, Nottm, UK

CHANGE! Mr.Obama promised "change" Americans want changes. If he wins 2b President hopefully it will be a change from arrogance to humbleness; from threats and sanctions to negotiations and accommodations, from meddling to peaceful persuasion,etc. Otherwise US can change but not d world.
PEACE.

Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia

Mike, Nottm,
U r out of date. The name is Kampuchea not Cambodia. Yes Kampuchea went through a bad patch but it is now on its way to development & progress as a member of ASEAN & via the Mekong development scheme with China.
Tell me if d West can sell arms why can't China sell arms.

Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia

Mike, Nottm, UK

(2) I believe West not only sold but gave arms to those who they want to use e.g d Mujahideens of Afghanistan to fight d Soviets. Unfortunately these guns are now aimed at you!
Chinese arms r usually for internal security and defence purposes.
Do West hv preconditions on arms?

Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia

Lim

"non-interference" as in Rwanda, Cambodia etc ?

They sorted out their own problems without interference from the 'West', a few million deaths but hey!

Maybe we should just follow China's example and sell arms to any murderous regime, after all if their own 'internal affair' how they use them.

Mike, Nottm, UK

Mark Chisanga & Rusununguko, I find it funny that you are sitting in ENGLAND (!!!) posting comments about how Zimbabweans should solve their problems without interference from ENGLAND!!! Yet you're Zimbabwean. Come back and live in Zimbabwe. You'll be scurrying back to ENGLAND (!!!) for help.

Saadia R, Francistown, Botswana

To:Colin, Cambridge
Tku. I was just responding to Mr.Jayil's question where Mr.Bush was. I did not say a thing abt Iran. Iraq was mentioned b'cos it was one of many issues he had to deal with. Anyway I know we r dealing with Zim. in Africa. I don't dislike d West. I only want non-interference.

Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia

Charan Muzaya, London, UK

It is not d world talking about Zim. It is mainly d West who is talking so much as if Zimbabwe is going to be buried any time soon. Many countries have gone through serious crisis & hv come out intact with or without external influences. West interference only worsens.

Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia

To all those Mugabe apologists writing on this forum, suggesting that Zimbabwe's problems should be left to Zimbabweans. Well, the world wouldn't be talking about Zimbabwe if Zimbabweans solved their own problems. And you're affecting other countries by emigrating to them. Your suggestion is silly.

Charan Muzaya, London, UK

Zimbabwe once was the breadbasket of Southern Africa, exporting grain to South Africa, Mozabique, Zambia and further afield. Mugabe has succefully demolished this infrasrtucture and colapsed the economy, turning a viable country into an impoverished starving land.
Can the West not comprehend this?

Colin Taylor, Vancouver, Canada

Have people not got it yet? Mugabe does not care what happens to the poor hungry Zimbabweans. His security minister Didymus Mutasa once said publicly that they don't care even if half of the population dies. The Mugabe government is Zimbabwe's own home grown Khmer Rouge!

Charan Muzaya, London, UK

How soon we forget. We should be proud of the governence of this country. This mob is what we put in place by forcing out the government of Ian Smith. The sanctions by the UN, strongly supported by by the UK, along with the shipments of arms from Russia and Cuba made these events inevitable.

Doug, Vernon, Canada

'international anger'?
or 'western anger'?
more accuracy!

Ran, York, UK

Where is George Bush? Why, on holiday of course. As for Zimbabwe, I doubt he has ever heard of the place and has no idea nor cares where it is anyway. At the moment he's too busy anyway coloring in the books for his presidential library.

tony freeman, tampa, usa

It brings a smile to my face when I note that the most aggressive opinions about UK involvement in Zimbabwe are posted by people with a UK address.
The double standards are mind boggling!

Prudence Eely Bond Mcguire, London, England, UK

You must be making scurrilous accusations against a good man. After all, there was nary a single whisper of condemnation at the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation! Indeed these panderers gave him its most influential podium to excoriate the world. And the EU saw no reason to enforce its ban!

Bob Evans, Anaheim, California

To Lim in Malaysia

Why are you talking about Iran, President Bush and Iraq.? The subject here is Mugabe and Zimbabwe which is in Africa. I think that perhaps you just do not like westerners. Have you ever been to Europe or America? Prejudices can be overcome

Colin, Cambridge, United Kingdom

Ah, more "condemnation". That sounds like it might work...

Bill Gemmell, Brusbane, Australia

People in England should worry about the own problems in their Island and they will never own a piece of land again in Zimbabwe. The problems of our nation Zimbabwe will be solved us, Zimbabweans alone no-one else and if people keep on popping their noses into Zimbabweans affairs they will be disapp

Rusununguko, LONDON, UK

The monkeys are running the zoo.

Brandon, Lancaster, pa,

Today, I am ASHAMED to call myself an American or to think of myself as a "Westerner". What the West is allowing in Zimbabwe is nothing short than assisting in the genocide of millions of innocents. We could topple Saddam, shoot missiles into Serbia, but Zimbabwa... is on it own. God Help Them.

Javier Williams, San Diego, CA, USA

The UN is legally obliged to act if genocide is happening.I'd say preventing a section of the population from accessing food that is availablefrom aid agencies is genocide. When will UN intervention begin ?

Peter, Dublin,

Use the UN, but invade Zimbabwe, and try Mugabe as a war criminal. Do it for the right reasons. Save the poor Zimbabwean people. Our fate is interdependent.

David, Amsterdam, Netherlands

Here's a leader who starves his own people and suppresses all political opposition, and when he visits Europe, you do nothing. Yet the ICC in the Hague threatens to arrest officials from the US for the Iraqi invasion. Why don't you Europeans grow a pair and go after the real thugs of the world!

Stan, Portland, USA

Mark Chisanga, Luton, UK:

Let's be truthful. Rhodesian soldiers killed many civilians for sheltering ZANU(PF). ZANU(PF) guerillas killed a comparable number of civilians for "collaborating" with Rhodesian soldiers, sometimes for simply having a son working for the govt or studying in Britain.

Charan Muzaya, London, UK

Mugabe must be confronted with a taste of his own medicine. He defies the world; the world must defy him - shove him aside and take control, fly in food aid and restore stability and order. Time he got poked in both eyes. In your face Mugabe!

James S, Mombasa, Kenya

America and Britain have been badly stung by their experience in Iraq. The world and a lot of their own people have been very very quick to condemn their efforts to remove a murderous man

Now we reap what we sow. This is what happens when nobody looks out for anyone else. Is nothing unacceptable?

George, London,

So Ian Smith's actions justify Mugabe's?
I think not!
UK Government and Ian Smith were not great 'buddies, either.
I re-iterate read Romain Gary's 'White Dog'.

Prudence Eely Bond Mcguire, London, England, UK

Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia

The reasons you stated does not stop Mr Bush from threatning Iran. The real reason why Mr Bush does not want to help Zimbabwe is because there is no 'pro-Zimbabwe Lobby' putting pressure on the U.S government to do anything.

jayil, london, uk

jayil, london, uk

Mr.Bush is in Washington. He is having a hard time trying to resolve the Iraqi adventure. There are economic problems like the sub prime mortgages, the worsening high employment rate, the ailing stock market and he is due to leave in November. He won't want another bad act.

Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia

Oooooh!.. He´s been condemned, I am sure he´s terrified, what next an unpleasant thought?

Pete, London, UK

Zimbabwean affairs will be solved by Zimbabweans not foreigners, people should give Zimbabweans to solve their problems. Leave us alone please, enough is enough. Ian Smith killed 30,000 black Zimbabweans in 1979 with the help of Britain, was that goog Miss Prudence?

mark chisanga, Luton, UK

The Zimbabwe people are suffering horribly due to Mugabe. There's no comparison between him and "The West" so don't even try. He is monster and we usually have decent intentions but not always the wisdom. We went ill advisably into Iraq, because of a percieved threat. Where are the African nations?!

Hannah, Bristol, United Kingdom

We can help but we wont! Why? Nothing to gain. No oil or minerals. They can't work out the political implications. Who cares; people are dying. Leaders; do something worthwile whilst you still can! These poeple having nothing and they need us.

Why can't we have a humanitarian foreign policy?

TJ, London,

The 'old dog' is still in a position of authority.
Until nature takes it's toll, there is nothing, the rest of the world will do to change the situation.
The rediculous situation of inviting this man to attend the world stage (along with the other 'Stalin' from Iran) sickens decent minded people.
PG

Peter G, Ammanford, S/wales UK

Washington was a terrorist.
As for the Media, reporting that Europeans hate Americans?
Just when, these 'enlightened' days, does the Media and it's subjective Editors/ Journalists, represent the views of the people?
On the whole -Never!
!

Prudence Eely Bond Mcguire, London, England, UK

In his last speech as President, Washington stated we need to stay out of European affairs. Sage advice. With the advent of the UN, a US created group, we have been in more conflicts then the 100 years before. I read in these pages how Europe hates us. You let dictators dine with you and blame Bush

William, Atlanta, usa

Mugabe must have respected Ian Smith.
It astounds me that Ian Smith lived on after he left office in the newly called Zimbabwe as a free citizen until the day of his death.
Rhodesia was not exactly free per se, but at least it's citizens
were not starved.
Romain Gary's'White Dog'now reigns?

Prudence Eely Bond Mcguire, London, England, UK

Keith Bentham, Wigan, UK:
Zimbabwe was definitely not better under Ian Smith, except economically. Blacks would be shot if seen in town centres between 6pm and 6am. Many of the repressive laws being used by Mugabe now have been re-introduced from Smith's time. I lived in Rhodesia then as a youth.

Charan Muzaya, London, UK

Many of the posters here think they are perfect and pure that they have the right to describe another person evil. Similarly the West thinks it is perfect that it can label others as bad. I am neither supportive nor 4 Mr Mugabe but I believe only God is in position to judge Mr.Mugabe.

Lim , Johor Bahru, Malaysia

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

Chris, dublin, ireland

While the US is'elated'at the thought of the unqualified and inexperienced Obama as it's Leader,look at the career of another man who was originally elected by the people legally.
Once Mugabe gained power he refused to allow anybody else to take it from him and the consequences?
Jesus wept.

Prudence Eely Bond Mcguire, London, England, UK

Isnt it funny that sovereignty, UN/international law etc doesnt matter when it comes to Zimbabwe & Sudan but did in Iraq. Jayil from london is right not that this makes iraq wrong but the inaction in sudan/zimbabwe wrong. Shows the impotence of UN & why US/UK correctly ignored it.

craig, london, UK

Each day that this man lives is an insult to humanity. Furthermore it is wrong to send food aid to a nation run by such men, as it just strengthens them. With the aid should come UN soldiers to ensure the will of the people are not subjugated by the will of tyrants. Sic semper tyranus.

Kristina, Copenhagen, Denmark

If only there was oil in Zimbabwe.

jayil, london, uk

R L M de Villiers,
your point is valid. Answer: Europe, does recognize the problem. They aim to solve it to do what they can to promote Israel being destroyed so that no reminder remains of their own uselessness. They seem successfully intimidating Israel into helplessness.

Andras, London, UK

Don't keep talking people DO SOMETHING NOW!

Peole are dying.

(the people I am refering to are the leaders of the UN who are quick to issue words but criminally slow to act)

Marc, Antrim,

We invaded Iraq for less (if you take oil out of the equation, that is).

Where's everyone now?

What about the UN?

Does anyone still believe that there truly are self-labelled standard-bearers for human rights and democracy?

Luca, Beijing, China

Amrica often used the justification that Saddam Hussein "killed his own people" in the run up to the Iraqi invasion. Where's the cavalry now?

Joaquim Cadavrez, London, UK

I want to see Marxists like Hain and Mandela admit Rhodesia was better off under White Rule.
Its a question of management. You should select the competent through merit.
Democracy isn't the answer either, ultimately that is about the rule by the deceptive and sly confidence trickster.

Keith bentham, wigan, uk

Dead or Alive; we need a bounty for this despicable, tyrannical despot who practices genocide in 2008. It’s unacceptable that powerful worldwide governments let this go on. ALL just be sitting there looking at their own navels. It’s a disgrace; wake-up & help the people in this hapless situation.

Tony, LONDON, ENGLAND

Well said, Mr De Villiers. If only there were Israelis at risk in Zimbabwe!

John Troughear, Oxford,

where is Mr Bush when we most need him?

jayil, london, uk

The Israelis managed a successful raid on Entebbe. They took action and solved a problem against an ugly dictator. The West is the real laughing stock for constantly resorting to words against a regime that doesn't care about those words. Does the West know its own impotence against a miserable man?

R L M de Villiers, Campbell, CA, USA